With Claire, who leaves for UVA in a month and would go tomorrow if she could

Coming to Terms with An Empty Nest

Susan Orlean, my thought partner on the podcast this week, writes on Medium and for The New Yorker about things like umbrella inventors, origami artists and treadmill desks. She is a curious lady and a great thinker. Here are some edited highlights from our recent heart to heart about my very real fears about the empty nest moment.